so we tried to force him to stop and talk and we killed him. you can t commit felonies against someone and then claim self-defense. you can t be the armed robber in the convenience store pointing the gun and when the clerk goes to defend himself by grabbing that gun or hitting the armed robber, you can t shoot him. the law goes, not self-defense when you re committing felonies against someone. and you can t provoke someone into defending themselves against you so you can intentionally harm them and claim self-defense. think of your schoolyard bull bullies. think of the three boys walking behind the one who s the target, you know, kid who s getting abused, right? okay? you ve got three-on-one. they re going down the hallway. they re menacing him, maybe threatening him, and they get him up against the locker, he has nowhere to go. he s trapped, right? what does the kid who s being bully dodd? he takes it and takes it until