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Base that, it is not that bad, we re going to go to the deadline, don t worry about it. i don t think boehner wants to default. so that s really where the house is now. can they usher some of these conservative members along to avoid default by coming together in a senate deal. right now, it is so fluid, i m not sure where boehner has the votes on almost anything. how delusional is paul ryan that he thought he was going to be the person who was going to come through this and cut between the left and the right and broker a deal that was based largely, not fully, but largely on ryan budget levels? i don t think it is the word delusional. there was a moment last week where ryan published that wall street journal op-ed and the house was leading the talks. ryan was engaging directly with the president. for a brief moment, it looked like ryan could be the one to get boehner, the right flank to come along and support a debt limit skeextension. that was always ryan s goal. but the problem
I don t think boehner can sell 50%. people know where i stand, but it seems like they haven t offered anything except the survival of the nation. you can continue to survive and have health care, but everything else we re taking. right. no, i mean you know, they re saying as if the president should say we re going to default and in exchange you ve got to give up health care and this. so it isn t a rational negotiation. it s not, and i think that more and more folks get that. i think speaker boehner knows this is a bridge too far. which is why he s trying to change the now he s talking about let s have a deficit conversation with the debt limit which should have been the demand from the very beginning. because that s actually how it s traditionally been used. not to mix it in with operations and health care. instead of asking for keystone and offshore oil and federal land exploitation and
Grand rapids are angry about his voting and are beginning to run a more moderate republican against this tea party republican. that s a sign of what could be ahead. jeremy, what s your thinking after watching boehner say he won t stand down over the weekend? what does he want the president to negotiate with? what are you hearing from sources? i don t think boehner quite yet knows what he wants. as we talk about the differences between 1996 and now, one thing i would point out that i think is disconcerting to everyone involved is the lack of dialogue. you go back to 96. at this point clinic tooton and gingrich were talking. there were conversations at the staff level going on. there is none of that going on. it s hard to go forward when there isn t the basic dialogue going forward you need to resolve this. all right. gillian, final word. here s something to think about as the discussion doesn t happen in washington. right now on wall street, the
Conversation, but there s no the question is can you come to an agreement where everybody gets 50% of what they want. and in this political environment, i don t think that s possible on the republican side. i don t think boehner can sell 50%. people know where i stand, but it seems like they haven t offered anything except the survival of the nation. you can continue to survive and have health care, but everything else we re taking. right. no, i mean you know, they re saying as if the president should say we re going to default and in exchange you ve got to give up health care and this. so it isn t a rational negotiation. it s not, and i think that more and more folks get that. i think speaker boehner knows this is a bridge too far. which is why he s trying to change the now he s talking about let s have a deficit conversation with the debt limit which should have been the demand from the very beginning.