response to a string of security demands that russia made last month including calls for a permanent ban on ukraine from joining nato. i wonder if that s a no-go. that s a no-go. joining us staff writer at the atlantic anne applebaum and distinguished professor of global affairs at johns hopkins school of advanced international study hal brands. he is author of the new book entitled the twilight struggle wherein what the cold war teaches us about great power rivalry today. joe, the issue of nato is not going to work. well, it has just began. it has been a nonstarter from the beginning. you just wonder whether, again, it is a semantics game where we give a nod and wink that we re not going to admit ukraine in for a certain period of time and they back off. we will see what happens.