Better experience than traveling with him to war-torn places or working with him, because no one could work harder than him. neil: thinking about a time that he reminds people about both sides, and even those within the front of their own party could talk to one another, caudal legislation, they might not get everything that they wanted, but the other side didn t get everything that they wanted, but they got something together. we got a big old action box of stuff to get done, but it got done. both the left and the right, where are the new john mccain s? yeah, neil, i think that is such an important question. you nailed it. a big part of his legacy. he was a bipartisan chappie. he was a principal guy. he was a conservative. there were things that he believed in. he was never going to violate.