after skipping the first debate. it s going to look like is he getting in because is he losing. ainsley: right. when you think about foreign policy, it s so important, right? but, when you walched him on the debate stage, you saw how charismatic he was. and how young he was: vivek. no one knew much about him. is he a fresh face. steve: is he a smooth talker. ainsley: fun. rapping on the campaign trail. his wife is a surgeon. he is ivy league trained. and he has two young children so you imagine the family, a young family back in the white house it. would be sweet. so people are interested in him. but, you know, you really have to talk about what matters to these families. steve: issues. ainsley: and the issues really do. brian: the fox debate in the end of september. and then you have an alabama debate in three. at one point you have got think that trump has got to get in there. i m not sure why not the next one. might be worth it if the stage can shrink. right now you thin