something that makes the filibuster much more difficult to use. let s let the minority party, whoever is in the majority, minority, discuss it, debate it. you have to do it in person. none of this anonymous filibustering. you get to a vote and let the business go forward. just a couple weeks ago we massaged the rules to raise the debt ceiling. what could be more important than protecting our democracy. so when we get back in january i think that s going to be the first order of business. senator, that is the key thing that you just said, elimination of the filibuster versus reform of the filibuster. in the 30 seconds that we have left, in that conversation, in the meeting you had with the president, did you get any sense from senator manchin whether he was leaning towards doing something that would reform filibuster to allow this to go