It allows conversations like this to go forward he needs to go find a bill barr or toughest, smartest lawyer out there and put him on the top of the fifth floor at the department of justice and let him apply the law of the constitution matt whitaker does not have what you need to go through advice and consent. article one is very serious about that but the key thing today is the president cooperated again, he answered the questions and those answers are going to become, that s what mueller s poring over tonight he and his team are looking at everything they got on this shelf and they re comparing it to everything that came in, in those answers. they are say fg there s a discrepancy we have something to put in the report to congress about what the president has done. we don t know how extensively he s cooperating we know he answered some questions, none of which are on obstruction. we don t know if that s all the special counsel was asking donald trump remember, we re only getting one
He shared the entire story with them. democratic congresswoman jackie spear of california is joining us, she s a member of the house intelligence committee. thank you for joining us. do you think roger stone will be indicted? well i don t know, like everyone else. he struck me as kind of a carnival barker when he testified before the intelligent jen committee. i think the subpoena was never issued for documentation and direct messaging, that s why i think we need to go deeper into his activities. do you think he lied to you before your committee, committed perjury? i think he probably did lie to us, yes. so you suspected that that s what mueller is going after him on conspiracy to commit perjury or perjury? well, certainly, special
Needed jaworski needed a tape against nixon? because i get the sense if you can say truth isn t truth, what you re really arguing is if you re willing to believe my side of the argument i ll say anything. they re going to need a lot more evidence than what we know of now. that s probably why they re taking as long as they need to take. unless you get a direct e-mail that says trump for sure, we can prove he knew about the meeting, unless you can get? some direct commentary from the president or an e-mail that confirms it, yeah, that s what mueller is going to need. but i think the problem sort of politically you hear from giuliani and a lot of these people, first it was collusion, collusion s not a crime. it s like in the fugitive, i didn t kill my wife. but if i did it was an accident. that doesn t work, right? you would still end up going to jail. you would still end up committing a crime. he didn t kill his wife. of course. that s critical. that s the critical thing. we
Against nixon? because i get the sense that if you can say truth isn t truth what you re really arguing is if you re willing to believe my side of the argument i ll say anything. they ll need a lot more evidence than what we know of now. that s probably why they re taking as long as they need to take. unless you get a direct e-mail that says trump for sure we can prove he knew about the meeting, unless you get some direct commentary from the president, yeah, that s what mueller is going to need. the problem politically that you hear from giuliani this argument that first it was collusion. collusion is not a crime. in the fugitive, i didn t kill my wife, but if i did, it was an accident. that doesn t work. but he didn t kill his wife. of course. of course. that s critical. but that s the critical thing. we don t know if that is the case. california republican representative devin nunes, i love this guy s name. known for his midnight run to the white house to view reports tha
Main probe responsibility is to get the facts and find out what happened. the president s part of that. and you say, well, why would he do it except to give grift to that mill, that mill being something nefarious in your perspective. i m saying no, not nefarious. it s for inclusion in a report to the house. right. that can then be used to consider impeachment. why would the president walk into that? because of the truth. he says he wants to tell the truth. if he doesn t sit down with mueller and we have some type of objective body, which i hold out hope that s what mueller is. everybody loved him until this probe didn t start going the way the president likes. now all of a sudden he s suspect. but if he doesn t sit down, it will always be an open question of whether or not he was hiding anything from the american people. fair point? fair point. but i would sitting in the president s place, i would rather have an open question than have somebody who went to hillary clinton