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Transcripts for CNN Early Start 20240604 09:18:00

and if he were to violate that, then he could theoretically see himself behind bars. the terms are quite broad and while we re talking about somebody that is campaigning, you have to wonder exactly how far the judge will interpret that because many of the things that might be considered threats even indirect threats could be considered political speech of some sort. so the subjective nature of the order is a bit questionable. but he will be watched very closely and if there are violations of this order at this level, he is going to have to adjudicate that. so that is how i see it at this point. he may not be able to it may not be upheld ultimately, but that is the current terms as they stand right now. if you were the former president s attorney, how would you advise him basically when it comes to his social media behavior considering this order? well, i think that donald trump historically has not followed legal advice to a t,

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Transcripts for CNN Early Start 20240604 09:15:00

tell cnn normally those booked at this jail are searched thoroughly by a jail deputy and at some point given a medical examination and a pretrial screening to determine if they can sign out on their own recognizance. but it is not clear if trump or the other high profile defendants will go through those steps. for a normal defendant, it would take hours to go through those procedures. but with these defendants? i don t expect trump to spend hours in this jail because the longer he is, i mean, it is a pain. it will be a hassle for the entire sheriff s department or at least those at the jail when the president is there, it will be a circus. reporter: if they didn t have bond agreements, donald trump and the other defendants might have been held in custody at this jail. which observers say could be a nightmarish experience. rice street jail is not a pleasant place. it is dirty, scary. reporter: last month the justice department launched a civil rights investigation into the fulto

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Transcripts for CNN Early Start 20240604 09:17:00

co-defendants? well, in many ways donald trump is being treated as a normal defendant in mull ton county. he s had to post cash bond here. he is going to go through some sort of booking process. but i think that there are practical considerations that obviously had to be taken into account. mr. trump is followed by the secret service everywhere he goes. it is a huge fiasco whenever he is anywhere publicly let alone being booked for a criminal case of any sort. so there has to be accommodations made just practically and logistically speaking. but he is going through much of the same process certainly. just this conversation seems unthinkable to talk about a former president going through this process. the terms of trump s bond though includes no communication about the case with co-defendants or witnesses and no threats towards those people. and including on social media. my question for you know, is this enforceable? well, that is the terms of his bond at this point.

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Transcripts for CNN Early Start 20240604 09:41:00

but as you mentioned, chris christie is the only one that has really said that i m coming after the former president on stage. asa hutchinson is alsoaeen voca against the president. but mike pence was really targeted on january 6, but he s said that the former president shouldn t have done these things, should not have pushed it to this point, but he hasn t really used it in his favor. i know ron desantis if you read that memo and kind of see where that memo that his allies posted is going to, it says that he is not going to pile after trump, he will actually fight any other republican does. so doesn t seem like that they will use the indictments in any way that could help them. and that memo specifically said that he would try to attack people that are polling lower than he is. but speaking of polling, we got the des moines register and our own poll says that no one right now is in double digits

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Transcripts for CNN Early Start 20240604 09:40:00

so we ll be split screening it in the newsroom. and do i think that it is interesting that it will be pre-taped. at least that is the expectation. i do want you to take a listen though to part of what trump s former press secretary caylee mcenany had to say. this is a huge political m miscalculation. you give others the opportunity to shine, you give others two hours to throw lobs at you. and i know former president trump can defend himself, but you are not there to do it yourself, you are counting on others to step in. but i m still not convinced that anyone besides chris christie will even attack or address the former president. so is there any risk here? yeah, so we were reporting yesterday that the campaigns have prepared for two scenario, one in which trump shows up last minute and the other one just how to make a point that he wasn t there.

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