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Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson 20191209 15:00:00

Whatwe that means, its to use e power of the office to obtain an improper personal benefit while ignoring orfi injuring the national interest, or acts in ways that are grossly inconsistent with and undermine the separation of powers that is the foundation of our democratic system. Now, this question of whether the president engaged in abuse of power came up before when this congress considered the impeachment of president nixon. And president nixon famously said, if the president does it, it is notde illegal. And this body rejected that because thats not so. That goes directly contrary to what the founders said. But President Trump has said the same thing in responding to the prior investigation by the Department Of Justice and defending his conduct. Heres what he said. I have an article 2 where i have the right to do whatever i want as president. That he has the right to do whatever he wants as president. That is as wrong as when president nixon said a similar thing. That is not what

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson 20191209 15:25:00

interview careerug staff who performed these security clearancepe reviews. but declined the witness initially to appear with agency counsel. the house and the white house were at an impasse, however, after a i little bit of time, w the republican staff with the help of mr. jordan, convinced the witness to appear with agency counsel for our own transcribed interview and the democrats came along. the subsequent interviews in the security clearance investigation were conducted with agency counsel. the testimony allowed the committee tost obtain the evidence, get to the bottom of what was going on, and it wasn t what was alleged. nobody outside the security clearance office was handing out clearances. certainly not to senior white house staffers. in this impeachment inquiry, however, democrats have turned away information that could be valuable to the inquiry by

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