May, i believe you testified it was one of the largest delegations . I believe it was. I cant be 100 sure but i believe it was the Largest National delegation. Okay. And included in the delegation was Secretary Perry. Secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself and senator ron johnson was there and the target defair joe pennington. And we talked a little bit this morning but the president Zelensky Inauguration came together rather quickly. It did. I believe we had about three days notice in which to put the delegation together. And there is discussion about whether the Vice President would be able to lead that effort and as it turned out he was not able to lead it. Do you have any information as to why the Vice President was unable to join . I dont. And mr. Morrison, do you have any information as to why the Vice President was unable to participate in the delegation . No. Ambassador volker, you testified during your deposition that aid does, in fact, get held up from time to time for
signed a letter inviting him to the white house on may 29th and for several weeks we were tem porrizing with the ukraines saying we re working on it it. it is a scheduling issue. we ll get there, don t worry. and i told bill and gordon that i was going to see president zelensky in toronto and i feel an obligation to tell him the truth, that we have a problem here, we re not getting aid scheduled and here is what i think the problem is. it is the negative information flow from mayor giuliani. and that he would also that i would advise him that he should call president trump personally because he needed to renew that personal relationship and be able to convey to president trump that he was serious about fighting corruption and investigating things that happened in the past and so forth. so i did all of that with president zelensky in a pull-aside after our formal bilateral meeting. and during that meeting in toronto or the series of meetings, there was no discussion of pre-condition