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Holdout? north dakota is a great state. i grew up there. once i got involved in the fight out here in california, i had so many great phone calls, e-mails, messages, support, i think it s a state that really respects equality and liberty and freedom. i think there s going to be a suit soon there. my colleagues at gibson dunn and the marriage foundation for equal rights were here and if anybody wants to challenge the law, i could see my mother there more often. i think it will happen. it s an undeniable force. it is. that was a cattle call to anyone who would like to file a lawsuit in bismarck. attorney ted boutrou. ask with thank you for your thoughts. thanks for having me. moments ago president obama announced his new secretary, julian castro. that s next.