some decisions in there. do these does this use of the tax code help meet the president s emission goals we have as a nation? so it s not about a price tag or anything. it s about values. not dollars. and we come to agreement on what people are for, or what they would cut if they wanted to do less. what would you cut? our goal is to have a very specific priorities, clearly presented with as close as possible results as possible. and i m very, very proud of the work of our members on that score. reporter: you have the treasury secretary here. i suspect you ve been talking about the debt ceiling. you ve expressed concern there f. it seems as though every time we get so close to the debt ceiling we here horror stories.