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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20210827 01:42:00

And the taliban will be communicating on the results of those um countermeasures to target isis. i do believe that the u.s. is going to use air power as much as possible, in addition to, you know, eavesdropping on communication at large. but i think the taliban are going to rely on human sources to bring them the the intelligence in order for them to know the locations of the isis cells and target them. counterintelligence analyst and adviser, thank you for taking the time. it s good to have you back. thank you. thanks so much, rachel. they say, you know, the enemy of i my enemy is my friend. in this case, the enemy of my enemy is an enemy and it s a whole world full of enemies in this case. just an absolutely terrible day in afghanistan. all right. we have got more ahead tonight. stay with us. we have got more ad tonight. stay with us that delicious scramble was microwaved? get outta here. everybody s a skeptic. wright brothers? more like, yeah right, brothers!

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20210827 15:13:00

Of what needs to take place is being reinforced. so i think, yes, and then your second question of passing on specifics like what are we looking for here, what is the threat that we need you to look for, yes, that is absolutely being passed from the commanders on the ground to the taliban commanders to ensure as mr. kirby said, things like yesterday we understand what to look for and we understand what the threat is to try to prevent it. specifically to target isis though. yes, those isis threats that could come in. and then secondly, there was a secondary explosion later yesterday where u.s. forces were doing controls detonations of equipment. you could talk about the type of equipment in the retrograde so it doesn t fall into the wrong hands either. so the type of equipment what

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20210827 15:43:00

and i want to get to the question about retaliation. but let me ask you about it general hertling. but president biden said yesterday, he said we have some reason to believe we know who they are. and taking them out, the isis, whoever masterminds this and taking them out it would seem to be the first real test of the over the horizon capability that we heard from the president and we heard more about in this pentagon briefing. how capable is that strategy? well, i mean, the president could have said we certainly know who they are. but then the issue is targeting. because these are cells. and that is how you target a suicide bomber cell. you don t go africa t go afte the bomber itself. if they have a vest on and approaching a check point, that is the hardest mission. what you try to do sos go after the cell producing the bombers,

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20210827 15:12:00

Ground had improved communications with taliban commandires not only in improving security but potentially in getting siv applicants or afghans through the gates and secondly, if the wake of the attacks since isis is also a problem for the taliban, is there potential there to coordinate to actually target isis? so, we say improved communication, i just want to i would answer that with we are continuing, you know, communication. so improve, i would say every day that is improving, because we have more repetitions. we re able to continue to have open lines of communication. so the specificity of what is being passed back and forth tactically to allow for a better security environment, i would say is improving because those repetitions are happening and the understanding of the taliban

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20210827 15:31:00

On the isis attackers yesterday. you could explain to the american public, who might be wondering we have 25 troops on the ground what will that look like if we go into a situation where we re going to go and hunt down these isis? i think as we look at currently, i ve already, i think i ve answered that question of we have, you know options there right now that we can, you know, ensure the commander has the ability to take action as those opportunities present themselves. but i m not going to go into and try to think about the, you know, how a decision general mckenzie would make in the future operations. just a quick follow up on the the gunman. was there more than one gunman and was that gunman killed or what as i said, those information is still coming in. i would say what we do know absolute fact there was a you

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