john eastman, who pushed the scheme that would get mike pence to somehow involve himself in blocking the election? he spent hours in a private meeting with the republican leader of a state assembly in wisconsin. still pushing to nullify in his view, somehow, nullify the election that went to biden. in that state. now, none of that has any actual consequence. we have a system of government you may have noticed where there s one president at a time and there s no backseats. but whether all of this adds to evidence for those criminal investigations is what s on the front burner as well as a congressional probe into january 6th that is considering whether to make a criminal referral to indict donald trump. top aides like roger stone cooking up physical plans for violence days before the violence caught on tape add to that criminal evidence? it s a leading question, but it is a fair one and i m going to bring in emily from the new