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Transcripts for MSNBC The Katie Phang Show 20240604 12:06:00

chair of the judiciary committee vowing to probe aggressively investigation of fani willis, similar to what they did in new york in the case of alvin bragg. julie tsirkin, thank you for getting us started at this 80 am hour on msnbc. i appreciate you. and joining me now for a deeper dive is glenn kershner, msnbc legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, and host of the justice matters process. hugo lowell, political investigations reporter at the guardian. gentlemen, what a way to end the week. i would say that we could take a break, but obviously we can t, because monday we are going to get geared up. hugo, let me start with you. let s start at the chart comparing that is going to happen on monday. you re going to be in court with a judge chutkan. and so we know that the doj wants to go to trial in january of 2024. trump responds, i want to go to trial in april of 2026. never the twain shall meet? what are we going to expect to see on monday? i think you will see the special couns

Transcripts for MSNBC The Katie Phang Show 20240604 12:07:00

team came up with that date. the median time it took four other cases during the pandemic when the courts were backlogged to say, well, 30 months between the start of the trial, to sentencing. that is not the start of trial. that is through the trial and, to get a verdict, that should be the operating timeline that they should be considering. and i think the doj will come back and say, you know, that is a patently long and lucas timeline. i think the judge is going to agree. you know glenn, we ve seen this judge. she has been handling a lot of the 16 relayed cases. she has been a very i would say very strong person in terms of sentencing for some of the defendants that have gone to jerry charlo s. we know that she is a straight shooter, she is all business. glenn, you and i have tried cases in federal court asking for a trial date as far out as april 26 is not only laughable, but ludicrous. and what do you expect to see on monday with judge chutkan? katie, it was not a

Transcripts for MSNBC The Katie Phang Show 20240604 12:20:00

through the indictments. and by the time he got to georgia he really did not want an indictment. he really did not want to mugshot. he wanted not of his personal details to be public. then he was pushing his lawyers to negotiate, that for the d s office and the sheriff s office. and he made a very clear he was not gonna get any special treatment. that was when they recalibrated and said, fine, if we have to do this for fund-raise off. it but it was not his preference. glenn it is not just donald trump in fulton county, we know that mark meadows has a very important hearing on monday. in federal, court on georgia, an attempt at a hearing to convince a judge not only to move the case to federal court but he s also going to be teeing up part of his defense which is that he can dismiss the case at a federal official under the supremacy clause i get the immunity. some people are calling this a mini trial. we do new people like brad raffensperger have been subpoenaed by the d.a. s office t

Transcripts for MSNBC The Katie Phang Show 20240604 12:08:00

reasonable ask, and frankly i think that that will make judge chutkan s decision it little bit easier. this is not a legitimate lawyering that s going on but donald trump s criminal defense attorneys. it feels more like they re acting as assistant campaign chairman to donald trump. and so listen, if the most reasonable voice in the room is checked smith and his team of federal prosecutors and they believe that those are the reasonable voices, the judge chutkan is likely going to go with their recommendation. i suspect you are going to see tanya chutkan set a trial date for sometime in early 2024. so that this case can be resolved well in advance of the november 2024 presidential election. glenn, i want to stay with you, because i asked this question to this really smart legal analysts who are on this network all the time, because i m still trying to figure out how we practically and logistically resolve it. so you have unindicted coconspirators in that jack smith won six case that is

Transcripts for MSNBC The Katie Phang Show 20240604 12:02:00

morning the fulton county jail recognizes him with the identification number p01135809 after her surrender and booking in the georgia 2020 election interference case. the now twice impeached quadruple indicted former president and his fellow 18 codefendant in that case are now staring down the barrel of a possible arraignment the week of september 5th and imposed trial for at least two of those defendants on october 23rd. trump s team is predictably opposing that october 23rd trial date for himself as he faces almost 100 felony counts across four different jurisdictions, and those cases are moving full steam ahead. and on monday, judge tanya chutkan is expected to set a trial date and that federal election subversion case in washington d.c.. the newer trial over trump s hush money payments to a porn star is scheduled for march 24, in the trial in the federal case is looking at his

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