Running this rose garden strategy of not debating but that really only works when you are the incumbent and you have proven to beat the person you will be running against in november. so that s a real problem on all sides for the republicans. but the other issue is how are they going to talk will they talk to americans or will they talk washington talk? washington talk is all about hunter biden, conspiracy theories. the issue important to americans is the bread and butter kitchen tabletop ickx. i will look to see who talks about that. harris: let s give cassie a chance to address that. this is the first debate. a chance for most to make a first impression to a national audience. you will have a lot of people tuning in not just republicans but independents or democrats who regret their vote for joe biden. who are in desperate need of another option. things are not going well. every time biden says bidenomics it reminds people that the country is in the wrong direction and our mone