Winning, russia is losing. is that how ukrainians feel? i have spent the last week of volunteering at the poll and ukraine border and all of those people who are crossing the border had lost everything. they lost their homes, they were leaving their, sons they were leaving their husbands. they certainly did not feel like they were winning. so was he right to be sending that message? yes and no. i think that it is right to send that message about the war altogether. because remember, what were the key objectives that putin said he was going to do? first he was going to annex all of ukraine. because they do not deserve to exist as an independent nation. he s failed at that. he was going to t nazify the country, regime change kills ellen s game put his puppet in place in kyiv. he s failed at that. he was going to destroy the ukrainian military, he failed at that. take the major cities, including most importantly kyiv. he s failed at that. so now putin himself has
Now? when i was here on my first trip, i took a brief 2 to 3 -week break out. there was a lot of talk and discussion about how the ukrainians were slowing the russians down. how they were able to defend kyiv and keep the tanks on the outer edge. we saw that driving in. the destruction was everywhere, but the russians were stopped dead in their tracks on the outskirts of the city. now the discussion is about how the russians can be killed before russia fleas this country. there s concern about nuclear retaliation, there s concern that russia could use chemical weapons, but for the first time since this war started, it hears like we are from the government, that they have russia on the run. they want long-range artillery, not just to keep the russians at bay, this russian artillery goes 40 kilometers. it s determined around and pushed him back into russia. cal perry, thank you, good to see you again. i appreciate you joining us. i want to bring michael mcfaul into the conversation. f
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Nbc s cal perry is live for us tonight in kyiv, cal was that trip all about. was it a ceremonial show of force, where did it mean something more for them to be there? i think part of it was the ceremonial show of force, that being here on the ground, showing the russians that these two senior members of the u.s. government are willing to travel here. a city at war, a city going through air raid sirens, to physically show their support. we ve seen it from european union leaders, now we ve seen it from american leaders. the second was to deliver weapons and to deliver the news of weapons that are coming right now. and part of the mission was to say what they said to the international world when they were back in poland. and that is, that it weaker russia is what america is after. and that the tide of this war has changed. that the ukrainians now have the russians. help us to understand, you ve been in the region two months. even into kyiv specifically, how has this country changed an
your team i know has been working out ideas for new sanctions. when i was away last week, i met with a lot of people who had family still living in russia. russians and their parents, their siblings in russia. and they told me that over the last ten years, since the country has become more and more isolated, russia has become self sustaining. people need fewer and fewer things, because they have not had foreign businesses to be relied on. and they are not actually feeling the sanctions so much. do you see that to be true? now. individuals may think that, most certainly the farther you live from moscow on the major cities. sanctions have left impact on you there. but if you are trying to build tanks, not being able to get the chips that you need to build those tanks, has a very direct effect. if you are in the oil and gas industry and you need technology to come in, it has a very direct effect. don t believe me, listen to the government officials when they