described that period of time one of the worst in his tenure at the agency 8,000 cdc staffers were furloughed. do you have expect a similar dynamic to play out if there is a shut down this year in this pandemic or will there be different instructions to those critical agencies now? well, we are taking every step we can to mitt divat the impacts of a potential shut down on our pandemic response, economic recovery, or other priorities. the fact is shut downs are incredibly costly, disruptive and damaging. direct public health efforts can generally proceed during a shutdown because they re exempt and that is certainly our intention but large swawteds of the federal government coming to a screeching halt would certainly not be beneficial to pandemic response. but we are doing everything we can to mitigate. i would also say on the first part of your question, it s consistent with long standing practice across many administrations for omb to remind senior agency staff of the need to review