Threatening messages. threatening her, sending sexualized texts, those kind of intimidations. reporter: georgia election worker shea moss testified about threats she had received via facebook messenger. a lot of threats wishing death upon me. telling me that i ll be in jail with my mother. reporter: these threats happened after rudy giuliani spread lies about her and her mother, ruby freeman, who was counting votes with moss at state farm arena in atlanta on election night. tape earlier in the day of ruby freeman and shea freeman moss and one other gentleman quite obviously surreptitiously passing around usb ports as if they re vials of heroin or cocaine. i mean, it s it s obvious to anyone who s a criminal investigator or prosecutor, they are engaged in surreptitious, illegal activity. what was your mom actually
Actions exposed on national television would make these groups less dangerous but there is a very good chance it is actually the opposite. slate published an interview with counter extremism expert colin p clark who said, these groups are quote, going to learn from these mistakes and will likely be a lot more surreptitious in the way that they organized now that they see the consequences are real. they re going to go back to operating in a more clandestine, covert manner, which is even more dangerous. here to weigh in on all of this is extremist analyst, christopher goldsmith. he s also a retired united states army sergeant and the ceo of sparta various. christopher it is always an honor to have you here. thanks for being here this morning. you are very plugged into this world of extremism. how have members have this group reacted to the january six hearing? how will it affect their tactics moving forward? to be frank, they are not reacting. it s like the hearings are not
Yesterday 2020 a stolen election. 2024, there s more to come, hopefully not in this violent way but in a surreptitious and equally striking way. katty kay and donnie, thank you for being here. another round of primary elections coming with mixed results. steve kornacki is at the big board to break it all down for us next on morning joe. l downr us next on morning joe.
I m a conservative and i felt like an orphan and very alone in thinking what trump was doing was awful and not conservative, by the way. to hear conservatives i know wanted trump to be president who are conservative to their core say i wouldn t do this, you just haven t heard a lot of that conviction over the past five years. we saw a lot of emotional, compelling testify, if you want to call it that today and we did hear from professional vote scammers. we did hear from them. it wasn t shea moss or lady ruby or brad raffensperger or bowers. we heard from professional vote scammers, former president trump and rudy giuliani, people involved in surreptitious, questionable activity. and it wasn t the four people i named. it is the former president and rudy giuliani. you look at shea moss, she was not a professional speaker, she was nervous, she did not want to be there, and she gave such
With her mother ruby freeman, was falsely accused of election tampering by donald trump and rudy giuliani. ruby freeman and shaye freeman moss and one other gentleman, quite obviously passing around usb ports as if they are vials of heroin or cocaine. i mean, it s obvious to anyone who is a criminal investigator or prosecutor they are engaged in surreptitious, illegal behavior. in one of the videos, mr. giuliani accused you and your mother of passing some sort of usb drive to each other. what was your mom actually handing you on that video? a ginger mint. reporter: the accusations were bogus, but they triggered an avalanche of threats form trump supporters. a lot of threats, wishing death upon me, telling me that i ll be in jail with my mother and saying things like, be glad