the fact is shutdowns are incredibly costly, disruptive and damaging. direct public health efforts can generally proceed during a shutdown because they re exempt, and that is certainly our intention. but large swaths of the federal government coming to a screeching halt would certainly not be beneficial to pandemic response. reporter: there s also a vote on monday for the $1.2 the trillion infrastructure bill. progressives are threatening to block it saying they won t throw their support behinding that smaller bill until and unless the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package passes, and that is a way off. mod rates say there s no reason the smaller bipartisan bill shouldn t get a vote and pass right now, and the president s poll numbers show he really needs a win. the white house meeting this week did not clear up what is going to happen with that vote on monday. plenty of pressure, though, to figure out an outcome to make sure the democrats don t derail the president s own agenda. al