ex-president it all but ensures that special counsel jack smith will hear from the key witness who none of the other investigations into the trump cou plot not the fulton county d.a. has ever heard from under oath we re, of course, talking about mike pence a ruling handed down wednesday night by a federal appeals court rejects an emergency request by trump to block mike pence s testimony. new york times reports this, quote, the 11th hour ruling by the u.s. court of appeals for the district of colombia paves the way for mr. pence to appear before the federal grand jury as early as this week the ex-president has a few legal options left including an appeal to the supreme court but as nbc news reports, quote, in previous instances, where appeals sent senior aides must testify, his legal team has opted no the to fight the decision further and those witnesses have quickly appeared before the grand jury and trump s argument that executive privilege prevents pence or any of his ai
It was it was an insurrection it was violent there is no doubt that if the rioters had gotten their hands on mike pence or the other people they were after like speaker pelosi, it could have resulted very, very tragically for those elected officials. i mean, mary, it seems to me that you could ask mike pence, you know, why did you run? that is an answer we don t know. why did you get in the car those are two questions i don t think we know what mike pence will say why would that matter? i think partly it matters for the human story, stthe story ofa victim that they were talking about, right this does put a must human face. this isn t just about, you know, an intent to undermine democracy and undermine the rule of the