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Transcripts for BBCNEWS This Cultural Life 20240604 02:54:00

From les mis , or stop musically commenting on itself and stop textually commenting on itself. he was like, just write. i mean, he didn t put it in that many words. he just gave me a nudge in that direction. i realised what he was saying is i didn t need to armour myself with meta, with irony, with satire. i could just write with words to try and elicit a genuine emotion out of the audience. and once he gave me permission to do that, it actually. changed my life. matilda sits in culture as something that altered british culture a tiny bit, and i contributed to it and that made me think, oh, i could be an artist, notjust a clown. i am just the luckiest human in the world. imean, i. and i mean that. and i am lucky that i was able to leverage some of my losses into gains to find ways to talk

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS This Cultural Life 20240604 00:54:00

He appealed to me to try and write less ironically, to not be, like, going, oh, this is like a bit from les mis , or stop musically commenting on itself and stop textually commenting on itself. he was like, just write. i mean, he didn t put it in that many words. he just gave me a nudge in that direction. i realised what he was saying is i didn t need to armour myself with meta, with irony, with satire. i could just write with words to try and elicit a genuine emotion out of the audience. and once he gave me permission to do that, it actually. changed my life. matilda sits in culture as something that altered british culture a tiny bit, and i contributed to it and that made me think, oh, i could be an artist, notjust a clown. so ijust am very, very lucky. and i am lucky that i was able to leverage some of my losses into gains to find ways to talk about the human condition.

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS This Cultural Life 20240604 09:54:00

Life because i was on this comedy trajectory, and i think i always thought i would leverage the reputation i had got. i always wanted to get back to acting and stuff, but i. i think i had basically gone, 0h, satire, that s obviously my thing. and obviously it was, i obviously had some propensity, but when matthew asked me to write matilda, not only did he get me to write it, but after my first drafts, one of the things he said to me is, oh, this song here, you re kind of wink. you re commenting, it s commenting on itself? it s very meta? and i m like, yeah, that s, i was born in 1975. we are the meta generation. it s all irony. you know, you re a step removed. you re commenting, right? and it s only got worse since that. he appealed to me to try and write less ironically, to not be, like, going, oh, this is like a bit from les mis , or stop musically commenting on itself and stop textually commenting on itself. he was like, just write.

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS This Cultural Life 20240604 21:54:00

Confidence, for instance, in being a songwriter? yeah, it completely changed my life because i was on this comedy trajectory, and i think i always thought i would leverage the reputation i had got. i always wanted to get back to acting and stuff, but i. i think i had basically gone, 0h, satire, that s obviously my thing. and obviously it was, i obviously had some propensity, but when matthew asked me to write matilda, not only did he get me to write it, but after my first drafts, one of the things he said to me is, oh, this song here, you re kind of wink. you re commenting, it s commenting on itself? it s very meta? and i m like, yeah, that s, i was born in 1975. we are the meta generation. it s all irony. you know, you re a step removed. you re commenting, right? and it s only got worse since that. he appealed to me to try and write less ironically, to not be, like, going, oh, this is like a bit from les mis , or stop musically commenting on itself and stop textually

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS This Cultural Life 20240604 02:54:00

Worse since that. he appealed to me to try and write less ironically to not be, like, going, oh, this is like a bit from les mis , or stop musically commenting on itself and stop textually commenting on itself. he was like, just write. i mean, he didn t put it in that many words. he just gave me a nudge in that direction. i realised what he was saying is, i didn t need to armour myself with meta, with irony, with satire. i could just write, with words, to try and elicit a genuine emotion out of the audience. and once he gave me permission to do that, it actually changed my life. matilda sits in culture as something that altered british culture a tiny bit, and i contributed to it and that made me think, oh, i could be an artist, notjust a clown. so ijust am very, very lucky. and i am lucky that i was able to leverage some of my losses

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