on the part of the congress. but i will ask you this. beyond the questions of what jordan could actually testify to, the facts that he was involved in, what is it seems to me there s another element to this which is what it tells us about the committee and how it plans to handle other stonewalling members. is that sort of how they look at this, that there are two purposes here, one is we got to get these facts from jordan but we re also trying to set up precedents for how we deal with all the other people who will refuse inevitably to cooperate. that s exactly right, john. how the committee decides to handle the case of jim jordan and scott perry will essentially serve as a roadmap for the rest of the gop lawmakers that were in touch with the white house, the willard hotel, outside legal operation, and various other components that led up to or occurred on the january 6th insurrection. i spoke with several committee sources, trying to map out and understand some of these legal argu