nbc s raf sanchez, thank you very much. joining us now, retired u.s. army general steph twittey. he served multiple tours in iraq and afghanistan. prior to his retirement in 2020, was deputy of the european command. he is now an msnbc military analyst. also with us, history professor at tulane university, walter isaacson is with us. really good to have you both with us. general, what do you make of the potential for some humanitarian escape for the people inside the steel plant. is there any reason to have hope? well, i don t think so. we do know that the russians time and time again have said they re going to do something but they do something differently. this is another employ to bring terror on the ukrainian people. here s what i will tell you that we need to take a look at here.