Killed, they have boris names, of the forest for former leader of the opposition, killed. his former protegee tried to kill, they didn t succeed. another, man nikolai baroque, of was thrown off a five story building. and many other people have been killed for calling for justice for sergei magnitsky, for exposing corruption, and now they re killing people for just calling this war a war. this is no different than the stalin purges. vladimir putin isn t evil dictator, and he will do everything he can to shut everybody up because he s so afraid that if the truth comes out the russian people will rise up. i m curious, just because we re doing the banned book club today. are your books banned in russia? yeah, absolutely banned in russia. my first book was banned. we are translating freezing order into russian, we re giving it away for free on the internet. i should say, one other banned
Classic bucha and mariupol. joining us mark joe, one of the agency s most decorated officers. we talk to mark joe in the midst of unbelievable horrors of what has happened to the people there and potential word. horrors all over. let s talk about the times of london report first, mark, if we can. this wouldn t be a surprise, would it? after all, we know about the stalin purges in the 1930s where stalin got rid of everybody around him, killed everybody, had show trials, purged him. so much so when world war ii started he had a dysfunctional army and hitler was able to just fly through russia. talk about putin and why this would make sense, why the times of london report would make sense. sure. so i find this, you know,
Kyiv they take zelenskyy. they can take the buildings, but they re going to be fighting a country that has such, i must say, an extraordinary sense of purpose and self-identity. one other thing we haven t talked about before, we have talked about the russians and putin since, that they re being encircled and being enclosed in upon. because of their sense of history he s reacting the way he is reacting, but we do overlook the fact and anne applebaum wrote an entire book about it stalin killed over 2 million, 3 million ukrainians, systematically starved them to death. there are people alive today who lost parents and grandparents in the great famine and in the stalin purges where russia was not a friend. russia was actually, you know, stalin was actually a brutal
Focused on china and soviet history. gentlemen, thank you very much for being here. sergei, one thing that struck me about this video, this reeducation video that s going around to many ministers and has now been seen somewhat publicly, is that they re not just reframing what s going on with vladimir putin and ukraine right now, they re reframing the whole soviet history. they re talking about how the stalin purges maybe went too far but were ultimately necessary. exactly. and they provide incorrect information also about the number of victims of stalin s purges. so that this is just one example of lots of of incorrect information and falsehood that they have in this documentary. what s the point? well, the point is to spin history to your advantage, or to present falsehoods as history. i mean, you have to understand here that china is or the