conventionally and they are still testing. bill: that s one of my questions, how far behind are we on the technology? i understand this happened during the month of august, we were distracted from the chaos in kabul. is that why beijing took the decision than to test it? i don t know. i suspected it had more to do with technology than anything else and they interestingly enough have never confirmed that this is what we believe it is. they described as a reusable space grab, being sent into space. if that was a case, why are you hiding it and why did you just announce that at the time? why are you keeping it sacred? there are over concerns here and they have concerns about their growing nuclear capability and we have concerns about the conventional capability which we are behind, particularly when