Are under. both have now been booked in georgia. sothy went from the searches, the federal pressure, to state indictment and booking, which can change people s sense of pressure. then there s giuliani, who has lamented the entire process. they re destroying my right to counsel, my right to be a lawyer. they re destroying his right to counsel. it s not accidental that they ve indicted all his lawyers. fact check. false. lawyers know the law. if giuliani did not expect to be charged, he knows he could have stayed within the confines of the law. he literally ran a prosecution office that indicted other lawyers. it s not a defense. the d.a. is charging ahead. she wants to speedily move the proceedings along. she said that in public. she s also asked the court to hold arraignments the week of september 5th. that s right after labor day. there are many ways this is picking up steam. indeed, we have more on all of this later in the program. but as promised, howard dean is here on this his