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i think a lot of senate democrats would like to see that. i also bring up social security. jay carney mentioned social security could be part of some grand bargain. senate democrats especially harry reid do not want to such social security. so i think there will somebody road blocks there. it will take negotiation through all three chambers to get something done. two chambers, excuse me. andy, who blinks first? i would say the president has more leverage at this point. after the election, there s been a lot of soul searching on the republican side about can we not appeal to latinos, are we losing women. and if we do go over the fiscal cliff, there s a chance republicans will get blamed for that and they could lose support in the business community. there s another factor here. if all tax rateses for americans rise on january 1st, the president can just come back and say, hey, i ve got a great idea, ....

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