virginia west virginia, badly needs help with its roads and bridges, transportation system. that s kind of the meat and potatoes. and that s what a lot of what the moderates wanted. they wanted to be able to go home and tell their constituents they got something, notwithstanding that none of the work is going to be evident for years before they get going on this. but, yeah, back in the senate joe manchin is going to be running things again. the they were to pass the social welfare spending bill, it goes back into the senate, and the spending on it is not paid for. he objects to that, and we really in terms of actually getting that big piece of legislation passed, we re no more further along than we were two months ago. joe biden s taking a victory lap. hey, it s the first one in 11 months, let s give him a trot around the track. he got a piece of legislation passed. but he s a long way from the if crown jewel of build back
is 96 members. if they hold true to one another, they will determine the outcome of what happens on infrastructure and this social welfare spending bill. martha: yeah. they are very aware of that and we ll see. bill: you wonder now. a lot of political discussions and written over the weekend whether or not they misread their majority with a small m when you have a plus four advantage in the house and 50/50 in the senate. that carries a lot of weight as to how you interpret what you can and cannot do and it s the point we ve reached. martha: she said we need a promise and wants to stick to that. see where it goes. joining us now who watched it play out utah senator mike lee. great to have you with us this morning. good morning. where do you think it all stands right now? i think it s a free for all and chaos. i would add that it s really
manchin and kyrsten sinema. they forced the democratic party to moderate its positions and saved the filibuster. if they had gotten rid of the filibuster they would have remade america in a way that was unthinkable. if we get away with just a couple trillion in spending for conservatives and the most damage the democrats can do i will take it as a win. bill: 1.75 trillion is nothing and you can agree on that. talking to martha before the show began here. the social welfare spending bill is so massively complicated. if they were to go forward with the vote on infrastructure, would that second bill be dead in the water for good? i don t see why. i don t see why they haven t passed the infrastructure bill already. think about where joe biden is standing.