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Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. The cfo knows. Was there Money Laundering . Is there wire fraud or fraud on Karen Mcdougal . What did she think she was signing . Theres a host of questions and possible crimes that could be charged. I think they are running scared from Michael Cohen. I think also theyre running scared from him because of what has come out about what hes saying about the 2016 Trump Tower Meeting with also goes a long way, if true, in helping to put trump in a conspiracy with the russians. Its important to note sort of one of the main take aways. Because Rudy Giuliani did address that. And he suddenly says that trump, it wasnt that he didnt know the Trump Tower Meeting took place. Its that trump wasnt there. We already knew that President Trump was never at that Trump Tower Meeting. The issue always that he absolutely had no knowledge of it. Now Rudy Giuliani

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20190725:03:18:00

so there is a lot of information that he can provide to the committee, and i also think him testifying would be devastating for the president. i think much different than what we saw with mueller today. this guy s in the white house. he s directly communicating with the president. the president has given him commands. he s objecting to them. he s kind of saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, i ll do this but then doesn t do it and is communicating with other people about this. he had memos about a lot of the interactions with the president. right. think this guy could potentially be very devastating. and just very quickly, it s difficult to say, oh, bob mueller underperformed expectations because bob mueller made clear he did not want to do this in the first place, right? when he gives that statement he says the report is my testimony. he wanted to say, here s this report i did, that s it. whereas mcgahn, that would be a whole different thing. we don t you can mueller s testimony effecti

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20190725:03:12:00

about the narrative going forward, i ve always i ve always worried, i ve always said to you that volume ii took all the noise out of volume i. because volume ii is about don jr. and all the politics or whatever. volume i is about our democracy. mmm-hmm. and if mueller i think mueller successfully turned the story to loyalty, and that, to me, is something that both republicans and democrats can can, you know, republicans who care can run with. all right. everyone, stick around. i want to talk about don mcgahn and whether he ll testify. next. (male announcer) now s the time.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20190725:03:28:00

deprived us of a lot of important details, and, b, undercut his overall effectiveness as a viewer. seeing someone over and over 200 times say i m not going to answer, you start to wonder, is he hiding something? why not? if i may say there were many people saying, well, you guys were focussing on style and not substance. but that is substance. yeah. that s part of the substance. not answering and not being clear on what s in the report. exactly. the thing we were talking about earlier on obstruction, that s very much substance, it s at the heart of this thing, and, by the way, his mueller s report without any doubt paints a picture of a president who has checked all the boxes on the elements of obstruction of justice. yeah. and so why, you know, the only thing i can i can figure out that he was trying to do is basically say i m lateraling the ball over to you guys now because as he had said earlier, you know, there s a process for dealing with a sitting presiden

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20190725:03:40:00

know, i wish that mueller had channelled a little bit of his joseph welsh, the army counsel during the mccarthy hearings that said, have you no decency, sir? at long last. that s what i wanted him to say to all these republicans impugning his integrity and the integrity of his investigators. okay. it was outrageous. instead it was just joe friday. it fell a little bit flat. hilary, let s talk about the democrats. they were disciplined. i was surprised. they were very disciplined. do you think they accomplished what they wanted despite of the performance of robert mueller? look, you know, you had some democratic members on early. clearly the caucus is in spin mode saying we got what we wanted out of it. i think what they didn t get out of it were a lot of changed minds. you know, robert mueller and his investigation was supported by an overwhelming majority of americans throughout the entire time, and that is because people had faith in him. i think what we saw today was

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