intended to intimidate lawmakers. if we have to, we re going to go to homes and let them know what we think about them. there were multiple protests. i don t remember the exact number, three at least outside either my district office or my home. you re correct. my then 15-year-old son was home by himself for the first one. all of my personal information was online. it was my personal email, my personal cell phone, my home phone number. in fact, we had to disconnect our home phone for about three days because it would ring all hours of the night, would fill up with messages. brian butt cutler, we re outside. outlining pressure from trump aides and the ex-president himself to peddle the big lie even as team trump admitted they didn t have any evidence. he said we ve got lots of theories, we just don t have the evidence. and i don t know if that was a gaff. maybe he didn t think through what he said. both myself and others in my group and my counsel both remembered tha
it was tough. it was tough hearing that audio again. it was seeing the video. and it was tough knowing that it s not over. that this is, you know, you could watch this hearing, saying, oh, this has happened this was about a past election. but it s not. this is a live battle that we re in the midst of fight, and it s that uncertainty that i talked about is still there. that anxiety still exists, and i don t know yet when we will be out of this moment, but we certainly heard the depths of which many of us have been dealing with challenges over the last few years and how far it s gone. you know, when i see, sitting in my chair, we cover the epidemic of gun violence in the united states of america, including mass shootings, and we cover the heinous frequency with which violence is threatened.
which is why are you trying to make this so intensely personal about ahmaud arbery? why bring up black pastors and their presence in what you know is a public accommodation, being in this courtroom and that you don t have a say in who comes and who doesn t come and observe? why make that point? why do you think about pastors in terms of black and white? i don t think of pastors in terms of black and white. and let s be clear. if you were in that courtroom, sitting in my chair, representing roddie bryan, you d be doing exactly the same thing. no, i wouldn t. so if it helps if it helps you to make that point, you can but if you were sitting there you d not doing the exact same thing. no, i wouldn t. you don t even have a right to do it. as would any defense lawyer in america. no, they wouldn t. to say you can t be in the gallery? really? to say i don t want black people in the gallery? based on the law i m sorry. i didn t say that. we have no problem with black pe
in this courtroom and that you don t have a say in who comes and who doesn t come and observe? why make that point? why do you think about pastors in terms of black and white? i don t think of pastors in terms of black and white. and let s be clear. if you were in that courtroom, sitting in my chair, representing roddie bryan, you d be doing exactly the same thing. no, i wouldn t. so if it helps if it helps you to make that point, you can but if you were sitting there you d not doing the exact same thing. no, i wouldn t. you don t even have a right to do it. as would any defense lawyer in america. no, they wouldn t. to say you can t be in the gallery? really? to say i don t want black people in the gallery? based on the law i m sorry. i didn t say that. we have no problem with black people being in the gallery. never did. never will. black pastors. read the motions, chris. do the homework. black pastors? millions of americans across this country are look
people in the courtroom gasp and sent ahmaud arbery s mother running out of court as fast as she could, horrified after one of the prosecutors talked about his appearance and mentioned his dirty long toenails. that really got people talking about dehumanization. for the prosecution, the portion mentioned that in her last words to the jury, saying that this is a defense tactic 101 and that it is offensive. john? sara, please keep us posted. could be a very, very important day there. kevin gough, the attorney for william roddie bryan, was pressed last night about his multiple requests to bar black faith leaders from the courtroom. let s listen. why do you think about pastors in terms of black and white? i don t think of pastors in terms of black and white. and let s be clear. if you were in that courtroom, sitting in my chair, representing roddie bryan, you would be doing exactly the same thing. no, i wouldn t. we have no problem with black