these types of munitions will substitute for singleshot artillery shells, it will cover more ground and it will force the to have to withdraw their personnel to avoid these types of weapons which will make it more feasible for ukrainians to advance more quickly. for some insight now on what it means to clear areas where cluster munitions have been deployed, i am joined by patrick fruchet, a landmine clearance expert. patrick, you have been involved in operations to clear areas in afghanistan and yemen, among other areas. walk us through how much of a challenge can be to clear areas after like cluster munitions have been used. after like cluster munitions have been used. thank you very much. have been used. thank you very much- yes. have been used. thank you very much- yes. i have been used. thank you very much. yes, i was have been used. thank you very much. yes, i was involved - have been used. thank you very much. yes, i was involved in - have been used. thank you very much. y
have not signed this convention, nor has ukraine. but most nato countries have. european nations have also been reacting to the news. spain s defence minister, margarita robles, said no to cluster bombs and yes to the legitimate defence of ukraine. but germany, which is also a signatory of the treaty, said while it would not provide such weapons to ukraine, we re certain that our us friends didn t take the decision about supplying such ammunition lightly. kurt volker a former us ambassador to nato, and former us special representative for ukraine. he s told the bbc why he backs the move. ukraine, as we have seen, as been able to advance on the battlefield but only very slowly. and that is because of the minefields and the trenches that have been put in place by the russians as defensie measures to prevent the ukranians from advancing. using these types of munitions will substitute for singleshot artillery shells, it will cover more ground and they will force the russians to have to
friends didn t take the decision about supplying such ammunition lightly. kurt volke is a former us ambassador to nato and former us special representative for ukraine. he s told the bbc why he backs the move. ukraine, as we have seen, as been able to advance on the battlefield but only very slowly. and that is because of the minefields and the trenches that have been put in place by the russians as defensie measures to prevent the ukranians from advancing. using these types of munitions will substitute for singleshot artillery shells, it will cover more ground and they will force the russians to have to withdraw their personnel to avoid these types of weapons which will make it more feasible for the ukrainians to advance more quickly. for some insight now on what it means to clear areas where cluster munitions have been deployed, i was joined by patrick fruchet, a landmine clearance expert.