released at once. you know, that would be great. but it s unrealistic. you know, you typically you try to get a sense of whether or not there were hostages who were in physical or medical distress. you try to get those people released first. whether there are elderly folks or firm or in tougher shape physically. you try to appeal to this person s sense of maybe wanting to pair down or simplify his situation. trying to convince him having one person is just as valuable as four, why not let the sick person go, that sort of thing. andy, thank you very, very much. stand by as we can as wedrop develop this thank you, very, very much. we are watching and monitoring this on the scene. an armed man is holding at least four people hostage. we have the latest next on cnn