Others might have had? i know some of the sailors actually did raise concerns with superior officers. he tried to talk to his superior officer, you know, he always wanted to get into housing, which was the you had to go through qualifications to do it. but knowing what was going on with the crew before him, this could have happened a long time ago and my son would still be alive. i don t know why it took so long for the navy to act on it. they had to wait until the seventh to actually make changes? it s ridiculous. and his higher ups, master chief petty officer that came and spoke on the ship, really he an alert to the crew on the ship and it was very disrespectful and hurtful to our family and friends of how well, this ship wasn t any better than a
not so much. he didn t reveal too much. he was too proud to say a lot was wrong. it was just, like, i don t like ship and basically too proud to say what was really going on there. did he tell you at all, john, that other sailors had died by suicide or suspected by suicide? he was the third in a week. he did not mention it. i did not know when we went to virginia to we found out that he had passed, and they didn t reveal that to me until i got home. and i saw some of the stories on the news. and it kind of made me angry. it made you angry. i think that s understandable. did were higher ups of course. were higher ups receptive to any concerns that xavier or
Jack hammering and smokes and smells during the day? he would sleep in his car. it is just awful. no sailor should even have been living on that ship in those conditions. and he would call you guys from his car. what were those conversations like? what did he say? you know, how was your shift, boy? it was great, dad, you know, but where are you? i m in my car, and, you know, wasn t much for the sailors to do because they re in a shipyard and had to walk a mile to their vehicles. i find that he s not the only one that did that. but it is awful. it is awful. they had nothing for the sailors to do. there was lack of hot water. and couldn t even take a hot shower. did you get the sense that there was a culture problem?
Russian state media take with a grain of salt. we don t have a way to know that or intelligence to answer that question? i haven t seen any intelligence assessments that confirmed that report that 1,000 ukrainian marines surrendered. what we believe and what we see is that they re still the ukrainians are still fighting very hard for mariupol. martha: you make clear the problems with the morale on the russian side is quite evident and obviously an issue. the ship thing, i don t know why the four or five ships would leave if that ship wasn t attacked. if that was a fire on board, why would you send four or five other ships i want to move on. a fair question. martha: when you look at it short term and long-term, here s his fear. we re obviously very concerned. president biden is concerned about avoiding a nuclear threat.
The navy has got to think through this because i m sure now it s aboard many of the ships at sea unless they were quarantined before they deployed, which this ship wasn t. so it s a problem. they ve got to face up to it rationally and allow the commanding officers to make decisions on what they re seeing in their own command. retired general barry mccaffrey, always a pleasure. thank you for getting back to us tonight. we appreciate it. and coming up for us, some of the personal stories from the nurses and doctors on the front lines of this war.