You know, sanctions when first imposed, they have the beginning consequences, but as they permeate and deepen in the international order, they even have a more consequential actions. i know this as someone that s been the architect and author of a whole host of sanctions and that the more as time goes by, the deeper the consequences. putin understands that. which is why lavrov is going to china and seeing if china will help themselves out of the consequences. i really value having you here because of your insight as the chair of the senate foreign affairs or foreign relations committee. you are at a classified briefing on ukraine just yesterday. without sharing classified information, what was your biggest takeaway? my biggest takeaway is that the biden administration has been fully committed to give the ukrainians everything they can that the ukrainians can use. use expeditiously.
Was credible evidence to establish this urge want concern. so on every level there s reason for concern, frankly. well, in a letter chairman schiff on tuesday, inspector general michael atkinson wrote i have now determined the director of national intelligence and i are at an impass over this issue of releasing this complaint to congress. he emphasized the subject matter involved in the complaint relates to one of the most significant dni s responsible for the american people which of course would be national security. that s powerful language. this is the inspector general appointed by trump, confirmed by the senate. he s a career justice appointment lawyer. he s totally neutral in this. he s saying it s central to the mission of the top intelligence agency, and the idea that congress can t have that information, a lot of people are going to have a problem with that. this story popped in the
If i m joan maguire tonight i m wonder if i can find a way out of this before testifying in open hearing next week. i m thinking russia, i m thinking putin because he andputep have a lot of history together, a lot of means and we all know a back and forth relationship and the fact it might involve a promise. there s also the ukrainian president who might have information on who knows who, perhaps the biden. there s lots of speculation about this all around town that this may be a partisan move by the president uncovered by a career bureaucrat who said presidents shouldn t be using intelligence, communication with foreign leaders for partisan negative opo. three quick things, chris. first of all who said what to whom matters and it is important. but i m still going to maintain and assert it is secondary to the violation of the
You don t throw that out the window, you try to work through retitle, try to have a good life, a secure existence. to throw that up in the air and say i m going to risk all this because i just heard the president say i ve got to act. you have to understand about the intelligence community is they are very, very sensitive to the idea that anybody would handle classified information as being bought by a foreign power. personally enriched by an overseas interest and they look out for that very carefully. when you re being paid off by a foreign power to do something or to provide information. so if there s a sense that the president is being personally enriched in these conversations, that s the kind of thing that makes people very nervous. it could be political. and financial is certainly true. it could be political, it could be both. i m sorry to interrupt, but i agree with that, that it has to be something more than just sharing of intelligence. and they would smell the difference
What do you make of this? we ve been talking about it but it seems to be a pattern. not just sloppily but reckless with information, they could do damage to our forces overseas, all kinds of our international relations. he doesn t seem to care about being careful. yes, not only does he not care, he doesn t care if the people around him aren t careful. we went through this with the security clearances. a number of people in his white house, they were recommended to not be suitable for holding classified information. like jared. right. and they got clearances anyway. he just does not take the security of american information that is central in the way we expect presidents will do based on the entire history. the word is out that our people know he s been manipulated. the former secretary of state