These conversation was happen in private and these people did not have the courage to come out and talk about it publicly. i cannot believe that a kevin mccarthy would get elected by the american people to represent them even consider that the president was doing something so egregious he had to be removed by the 25th amendment but sing another tune. it s duplicitous and not what we expect from our public serveants. that s what we see until he is well gone from office the fear of him keeps these people silent and it is corroding our democracy in realtime. i guess it s amazing, though, miles, that what s up is down and what s down is up. on the right and you know better than anybody, what s rewarded in i won t call them public servants but in trump s servants is the opposite of all that. is not siding with democracy over trump, not telling the truth about the results of an