many indictments it is now, but he s going to spend a lot of time in a courtroom and not on a campaign trail. and my concern is we cannot have kamala harris as president. we can t chance this. here to discuss, cnn correspondents audie cornish and eva mckend. plus cnn political commentator kate beddenfield. and scott jennings. scott, your reaction to how nikki haley is framing this. she obviously knows there s four indictments. first of all, coming out of the debate, i was surprised to sea haley aggressively confront trump. she sat there and told a fox news audience that he is the most unpopular politician in the country. it was surprising to me to see her take that role. she s obviously continued it this weekend. it strikes me that her strategic thinking at this point is that, hey, i ve got to begin to pivot and make the case that making him the nominee, if he becomes the nominee, would be near