right now that s an incredibly risky call. by february or march, that might be a reasonable call. it might in fact be no more dangerous than the flu. joining me now. medical contributor doctor gupta. a critical care pulmonologist and faculty member. and evaluation at the university of washington. it is always good to see you. first i want you to tell me if i got that tee up right there. if you believe we re in a turning point in the pandemic. happy new year. great to see you. not quite yet. i agree with the comments that were just made by the other doctor. i do believe we re headed for some degree of respite. come say end of march. when at the institute for health we re anticipating 10,000 weekly deaths. well into march of this 2022. that s expected. because there s still a lot of