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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:14:00

[coughing] hi, susan. honey. yeah. i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? robitussin. the only brand with real honeyand elderberry. reporter: when handyman gerald gardener called 9-1-1 that chilly morning in february 2014 there is a lady in the pool, in her backyard, and her pool. reporter: he told the operator he knew samira frasch and her children, two little girls that he couldn t find them. where are her kids? he said i don t know, ma am. i can get in the house. i can get nothing. i just saw her in the back of the pull. reporter: investigator jason illumine searched for clues at

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211016 08:12:00

Explanations. one in particular. adam saying he only dated other women after samira filed for divorce. well, nothing could be further from the truth, said the detectives. mr. frasch had multiple female acquaintances. several of which looked very similar in stature. yeah. so would these women be seen as suspects? i mean, they re persons of interest. i wouldn t necessarily put them in the suspect category, but if we were and throughout this investigation, everybody s a potential. reporter: and they could not ignore the possibility that one of those other women wanted to take samira s place in adam s life. that one of them could be the woman the neighbor saw in the driveway. so tell me about these girlfriends. what kind of people were they? three of them were strippers. so you actually found yourself kind of traveling around the state, going to strip clubs and tracking people down? i did. i did.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211016 08:28:00

Believe, to drop the kids off there. that was probably his intention. and then to flee. reporter: that was really only speculation, of course, and martha wasn t home that morning anyway. but on the stand, she acknowledged it seemed unusual the girls would be alone with adam. you know, they were going through the battle of divorce, and in the court orders, he shouldn t have had the kids. reporter: to prosecutor cappleman, it was a bad set of facts for adam, a scorned husband with ample time to commit murder before hastily fleeing the scene with kids who were not supposed to be in his care. mr. frasch, did they read you your miranda rights? yes, sir. reporter: cappleman played more than an hour of frasch speaking to investigators, homing in on his demeanor in the hours after samira s death. you done sat up here and broke down in your own way of crying, i don t know how many times and not one tear has

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211016 08:05:00

Didn t happen, he told us. not while he was living with samira. not until they separated and he thought his marriage was over. probably on to divorce number three, you know, and get out of this and just start on with my own life. so i started dating. and then realized but there weren t relationships all the way through your marriage with samira? no. i never ever had because this is the allegation that s out there. no, that s not true. reporter: in fact, said adam, he and samira were trying to reconcile. during that last month, he d been staying over at the house with her and the children. and they agreed to try again. she was going to call off the divorce, he said. she said she was sorry and that she wanted me back. how d that feel? felt wonderful. i got her back, and she admitted it was very difficult in raising the two girls by herself. reporter: and their final night ended, he said, with them making love, nothing else. murder? wasn t possible, said adam. an

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211016 08:17:00

Attempt at an alibi for adam frasch. can t win with a story like that. you believe it s an alibi, but it may just be as likely he really is terrified about her. when you couple a phone call that your wife is dead with the fact you call your wife, not law enforcement, to see, hey, i m being told my wife has passed away, i have the kids, what s going on? add that to the fact that he is not supposed to have custody of the kids at all. it didn t make sense. reporter: and, you know the story adam told of that last happy day with samira? well, security camera tapes from late that night told a very different story. first at an auto repair shop. adam trying to talk to her. samira, driving, backs up the car with the door open and him in it, like she doesn t seem to

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