Great mobilization of huge numbers of people. it was a long, hard, bitter and bloody struggle. is that what we re in store for now? i don t know about bloody, but it s certainly going to we certainly need to involve the american people in this fight. we tend to underestimate the power that we have as so-called ordinary citizens. yet, as we look back, and as we demonstrate in the book, it is ordinary citizens who have been the ones who have been the start of the change that made this nation greater. sam talked about some of the people we discovered through a lot of the history, the history searching that he did. but it is the people, some of whom are well-known to us, many whose names have been forgotten. yeah, it ll take the people to get us back to the place where we need to be. we can t rely on politicians to do this. it is going to take citizen
Action. it s precisely because that history is so bloody and so difficult, and people, despite the obstacles, fought for the right to vote, that we have a duty to do the same for future generations of americans. the new book is our unfinished march. the violent past and imperilled future of the vote. a history, a crisis, a plan. former u.s. attorney general eric holder and new york times best-selling author sam cobbleman, thank you both for being on with us this morning. it is exactly the top of the hour now. the white house says president biden has a plan to tackle inflation. later today, he is expected to stack his ideas up against republicans. plus, the latest from ukraine. russian missiles hit the black seaport city of odesa. at one point, forcing the european council president who was visiting into a bomb shelter. the former president of ukraine, poroshenko, will join us later
They re doing behind the scenes. he gave a significant speech earlier in the year where he said they d hold everybody accountable at any level. that is a very significant phrase, at any level. so i think we have to wait and see what it is they ultimately do. do they announce indictments, and how far up do those indictments go? or do they decide not to bring indictments? at that point, i think you can make a determination and level criticism, or say they did the right things. the reality is going to be they re going to get slammed either way. you bring an indictment, and people will say you re operating from a political atmosphere. if you don t bring indictments, they ll say, well, you re letting them off the hook. in some ways, all they have to do is the right thing. look at the evidence. apply the law. make a determination as to what is appropriate. yeah. sam, talk about the book that you and the attorney general have written, that charted the course of voting rights.
Starts crying. going over the top of it because he loves donald trump so much. gets emotional. all right. former attorney general under president obama eric holder joins us now. i m bet he is sorry. along with new york times best-selling author, our unfinished march. a victory, a crisis, a plan. sam is with us, as well, for the conversation. great to have you both. attorney general eric holder, i d like to first ask you about your evolving views on a president or a former president being indicted. well, as i ve described institutionalist. it is hard to imagine one administration looking back at the other administration and holding the head responsible. it is inconsistent with the way we conducted the transfer of power. that s something that happens in other countries. yet, as the evidence has come out about what the former