and we re also going to save billions of dollars on going after criminals who commit fraud. a lot of people are saying to me they don t like the idea i m prepared to forgive up to $20,000 if you got a pell grant or $10,000 for anybody who has a student loan during the recession. well, guess what, we pay the so called ppp program, we paid significant i think it s $900 billion. don t hold me to that number, but it s well over 9 for anybody who had a tough time with their business during the pandemic so they could pay employees. but guess what, you may remember, i was running for office at the time, you all may remember it that i had a big fight with the former president. and maybe future president. bless me father. anyway, all kidding aside, and here s the deal, what happened was the folks are really going after me for trying to, and by the way, 90% of all debt forgiveness for student loans will go to, under my plan, 90% will go to families making under $75,000 a year. okay.
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