Which is something that is very important for the ukrainians are now, so he was a face without even revealing his face, even though we knew him by his face. but his voice, mostly his image was iconic and symbolic. mostly his image was iconic and s mbolic. , symbolic. and the timing is particularly symbolic. and the timing is particularly unfortunate - symbolic. and the timing is - particularly unfortunate because he was very keen on the idea of flying f-igs, was very keen on the idea of flying f igs, this is an important moment for the air force of ukraine? yes. for the air force of ukraine? yes, it s been more for the air force of ukraine? yes, it s been more than for the air force of ukraine? yes, it s been more than a for the air force of ukraine? yes, it s been more than a year- for the air force of ukraine? 1&1: it s been more than a year that many ukrainian pilots and journalists, and in general ukrainian leadership started this campaign to persuade the west to provide
On the one hand, you ve got president zelensky trying to get his message out to the world, giving interviews to western journalists. vladimir putin hasn t given interviews to the western media since russia attacked ukraine. but there s one thing the two men have in common publicly, at least, they both insist they re going to win. steve rosenberg. dmitry gorenburg is an expert on russian naval strategy in the pacific and the black sea at the centre for naval analyses. hejoins me now from boston. hello to you, thank you for joining us. we heard from our correspondent that this was a symbol of russian military might and power. it is now at the bottom of the sea. whatever the bottom of the sea. whatever the reason for its thinking, this has to be great for ukrainian morale and terrible for russian morale? absolutely. s mbolic for russian morale? absolutely. symbolic impact, for russian morale? absolutely. symbolic impact, i for russian morale? absolutely. symbolic impact, i especially