Thats what we have all these prosecutions happening across the country. Jenna griswold, always great to see you. Thanks for being with, us thanks for the things you do to keep our elections actually safe. She is the Secretary Of State, for colorado. Coming up in our next hour, were gonna call to order a Special Edition of the Velshi Banned Book Club. Ominous discuss with two call scholars, one of americas most important most divisive documents, the constitution of the United States of america. Were gonna dig deeper into the section of that same constitution that legal experts say disqualifies donald trump from holding the office of the president ever again. Another hour of velshi begins right now. Right now. Good morning, its saturday, august 19th. Im ali velshi. In the span of just 12 months, the twice impeached President Donald Trump has been charged with a total of 91 felony count. Stemming from criminal cases against. Tim he remains firmly at the top of the field of the republican
i thought it was very interesting in those who could read the full article will see this, that the judge and the former judge and the professor were arguing that such the implication of this section three of the 14th amendment should be independent of criminal conviction. we don t need a conviction to do it. from where i sit, i m looking at people who tried to dismantle democracy, and use loopholes in constitutions. that s very important. if your judiciary has been cleansed, that s what we call autocratic capture, if it s been cleansed of non loyalists to the leader of the former leader, or people have been threatened, it becomes more difficult to get a conviction. so, this is a democratic protection, in try and in our constitution, that the way they re interpreting it, that conviction is not necessary to use this democratic protection tool. however, if one reads the
power or try to stay in power and get back to power, you have crossed the line. you are no longer a democratic party. you are in authoritarian party. ruth, thanks as always. professor ruth ben-ghiat, professor of history and why he, with the author of many important books, including strong, went from mussolini to the president. quick programming note, tomorrow night, will be hosting special coverage. during msnbc s many lisa menendez, reverend al sharpton, and me for the analysis of the gop s reckoning with republicans facing with seminal moments of a front-runner who is facing multiple federal charges. that s tomorrow night, a pm eastern, right here on msnbc. plus, i read the entire 98-page george indictment against the former president. scan the qr code right here on your screen and listen to the two part episode of prosecuting donald trump, right now. plus, today, we ve got a special meeting of the velshi banned book club. we re exploring a controversial and important document t
institution of his office, and quote. i implore you to read this article in full. it has been published this morning. joining me now is ruth bin got, a professor of history at nyu. she s the author of the newsletter that follows threats to democracy, she s the author of the very important book, strongmen. mussolini to the president. we re thank you for being here this morning. i appreciate. you will recall, unite discussed when donald trump posted that thing about the termination of the constitution, and returning into office. he subsequently made light of it. he did post, in fact, i think he suggested he didn t post. it that s a thing about donald, trump there s always a post. to stand by. these two jurist i have on an hour ago said, this is very plain. the constitution not ambiguous about. this if you have taken an oath to protect the constitution of the united states, and then you participate in an insurrection against it, you can t hold office. your thoughts? yeah, it s very, ver