Culturally and through other methods. actually on that point, we have seen some of this russefication. mariupol not taken, but kherson they are trying to do a referendum, planting flags at hospitals, statues. ukrainians have been speaking out and they have been standing their ground, particularly in kherson. they have. it s very chilling for me to see because i saw this happening in real-time in donbas when i was with o.s.e. and the russians took over. that s the first thing they do. knock ukrainian media off the air, take libraries, institutions. i m going to wrap you there because if you re just joining me, bring you up to date, we are looking at live images from moscow. it s 40 minutes past 10:00 in the morning. it s victory day in moscow. it s the military parade. and victory day is the defeat of nazi germany during the second world war.