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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:09:00

very early this morning for us, not so for them. jonathan lemire, this has been coming for some time i must say, just i ve been saying on this show since 2007, i think the supremacy of china has been overvalued by americans. i think china is, obviously, the rising power, and we are going to share the world stage with them for the next 30, 40, 50 years. they certainly aren t going to dominate us. but i also think this talk of, this talk of just absolute collapse in the relationship has also been overstated both sides have been jostling for position biden has been far more aggressive he s finally done something that every president said they were going to do this century, and he s actually done the pivot toward asia, strengthening america s positions in guam. strengthening our positions with our allies in the philippines, in zwrjapan and australia, i me,

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:20:00

Of becoming multi-national. and they leave why? they move headquarters why some find greener pastures or are looking for defensive postures related to economic risk we have 47% increase in business start-ups this year compared that last year. would you not acknowledge but acknowledge the considerations it s almost a point of success. we birth these folks, they move out of the house, and thousands more replace them every year. they build their companies here, and all of a sudden, they re paying the high tax bill they move the headquarters away. geez. by the way, do you support the idea this is on its way to be the fourth largest economy in the world. what are you arguing for, mississippi s economic policy? that s what you re asking me. if i wanted the kansas policy it was a debacle no economic growth 71% of the gdp in america are in blue counties. 71% of the gdp. it s the population centers. progressive policies.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:22:00

With america s secrets because he will put servicemen and servicewomen s lives at risk and he is dangerous when asked directly, can donald trump ever be trusted with the nation s secrets again, he said no that sound bite, side by side with bill barr, is really extraordinary. i hope we keep, you know, drawing a line under it. this was somebody that donald trump chose. he was the secretary of defense. these are the voices coming from within the room. in many ways, his comments are more damning than bill barr s comments, because he specifically is talking to one of donald trump s strengths, that he is in favor of the military, in support of the truth and supports veterans. mark esper is saying, no, this guy put them all at risk again, i agree with mika, we can go back and say, you know, why didn t you see this earlier? you d been warned about this. but in the moment we re in right

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:20:00

With the nation s secrets ever again? if the actions are proven true under the indictment by the special counsel, no. it s just irresponsible action that places our service members at risk, places our nation s security at risk. you understand the seriousness of this better than i do why is it a risk to the nation s security to have these documents lying around at mar-a-lago well, imagine if a foreign agent, another country were to discover documents that outline america s vulnerabilities or the weaknesses of the united states military think of how it could be exploited and used against us in a conflict an enemy could develop countermeasures. in the case of the most significant piece raised in the allegation about u.s. plans to attack iran, think about how that affects our readiness, our ability to prosecute and attack if, indeed, we know that iran eventually develops a nuclear weapon and we need to act on it. i mean, those things affect our ability to effectively execute

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:24:00

Acted on it. who knows? who knows what he did? we really don t know. with this information. there s no way, unfortunately, we can know i mean, this is you know, the reason why you don t want these secrets outside of protected spaces in the government is because of that possibility. exactly. other people could see it other people could be led into that room, this room you ll find something there if you look in this box we don t know what happened. but, you know, this presumption, that there seems this presumption that it is funny he threw the boxes there and no damage was done to america s national security. and our credibility. listen, come on. it s a joke. the government or assumption oh, we hope for the best, that they were just stacked there for a year and a half? we hope they were just stacked there and not shown to anybody

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