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most talked about moments when all eight republicans stood on the stage with me in tampa, florida, this week. governor perry, speaking of social security, you said in the past it s a ponzy scheme. an absolute failure. unconstitutional. but today you wrote an article in usa today saying it must be saved and reformed. very different tone. why? it s time for us to get back to the constitution. and a program that s been there 70 or 80 years, obviously we re not going to take that program away. but for people to stand up and support what they did in the 30s or in the 2010s is not appropriate for america. the question is, do you still believe that social security should be ended as a federal program as you did six months ago when your book came out and return to the states or do you want a treat for them? i think we ought to have a conversation we re having that right now, governor. we re running for president. we ll finish this conversation. but the issue is, ar ....