neil: because he s on the other side. jerry brown and some of those in the press in your fine state have been saying $3 billion is over inflated. well, i don t think we know to tell you the truth. neil. the chapters are unfolding on the healthcare plan as we speak. $3 billion is the number i heard. there s been a number of third parties who validated that number. frankly it could be higher. so i don t think we know. this is all becoming clear. neil: what route auto would you take to get the deaf deficit in line? in new jersey, no tax increases, no fee increases, just all spending. and he hopes to hack that down. he s not the first and likely not the last governor to say that s the way to do it but that s his mantra. is it realistic to say you can balance budgets in california just cutting spending? it is realistic.