old, south guy, he may have lived on a plantation, i don t know. his member is ron delums. i go in there and it s my first day and just elected and i am talking to floyd. so good to see you. thank you very much and we are sitting there talking and we are going threw these wide range of things. oh, can you believe clinton s tax and what about rondale, how do you work with him. you may not agree with each other but he s a good decent man. i just sat there and boom, the guard rails are put up. you show respect to others who you work with. here is a guy that could not have less in common with rondale, this berkeley, radical wonderful man.
against apartheid. i saw will smith in one of those pictures and harry bellefonte. there were enough of us and the people that were activists to give our country a good name in that country. we were lucky to make the change in the 80s. thanks again to the late bill grey. they took the lead. no doubt about it. ron delums, randall robinson. but i think people don t understand there were elements in this country that actually as late as the mid-80s was still calling nelson mandela and the anc terrorists. i know. yet he came out with a very forgiving spirit and rose above all of that. i think there s a lot of great leaders in south africa. we ve lost some of them, of course. there s a lot of people down there that i d love to see get back into government and really develop a really strong democratic tradition there. but you re right. there were people that, you know, pat buchanan and other