director for the greo. great to see you. i m going to start with you. let me play a little clip for the few people not familiar with joe rogan, let me play a little mash up of roguen s broadcast. if you re 21 years old say should i get vaccinated? i go no. you have one step away from a king. you have a one step closer. you move one step closer to dictatorship. that s what the [ bleep ] is happening. that is what will happen be vaccine passport. this is gene therapy. this is different. it s tricking your body. the black and white thing is strange because the shades tan and brown. there is such a spectrum of shades of people unless you talk to someone that is 100% african from the darkest place where they re not wearing any clothes all day and they developed all that color to protect themselves from the sun, the term black is weird. so i m going to stipulate that my father is african, i m
went. the basic premise that he kept pushing and saying was that even if you re vaccinated, it doesn t make a difference. you can still transmit as if you re unvaccinated. that s not true. you know, you re eight times less likely to get infected in the first place and even though you might have virus you re carrying in your nose and mouth, the duration is much smaller. much narrow erwin doe. it s possible someone vaccinated can still spread. it s not perfect by really good tool in terms of bringing this pandemic to an end and clearly it helps people from keeps them from getting sick. joe, you know, is a believer in natural immunity. i don t think he s saying people should go out and get infected, not really but saying his immunity is very strong because he got infected. that s a terrible strategy. no one should be advocating for infection over vaccination. and that is a good clarification of what he is saying, sanjay. thank you for that. it seems like roguen was all for
roguen telling 13 million people saying he was positive for covid and trying all these drugs including ivermectin. how dangerous is this drug and for someone so influential for pushing it? thank you for having me. i m concerned about this. the data specifically for ivermectin in the use of covid-19 is very poor with low quality data. ivermectin is an anti parricide drug for infections like worms and scabies but not usually used for viral infections. a systematic review of 14 studies did not support the use of ivermectin for covid-19. so it s unclear that this is effective or safe for the use of covid-19. the nih does not have a recommendation for or against the use of this and infectious