Someone shoots a pregnant woman, it s a dual homicide greg: right, right. skunk: so first of all, maybe define terms first before you even move to the next section. i understand it s a sensitive situation. people are very passionate about it. but there seems to be no definition, no basis for reason on either side greg: and i think that this is a lot of kind of a thing being kicked up because people don t want to talk about the definition so they have these ancillary i ll get to you in a second young lady. rob the other thing bill maher said which is interesting is the majority of terminated pregnancy are done with pills. abortions aren t even a question anymore. rob: abortion rates have gone down over the years since roe v wade but technology has made some easier but also one of the reasons why i think women are more pro life is because since roe v wade, for 50 years, there have been ultrasounds. ultrasound technology is much, much better.